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Lost Fanatic - October 2006

Lost Official Podcast: 30 Oct 2006

October 31st 2006 18:40
The Lost podcast for 30 Oct 2006 had several interesting bits of information. Damon and Carlton came right out and said some specific things. There are a few things that I think are important for the discerning fan of Lost to know, but I'm including the spoiler tag at the top for those who don't want to know what's not clearly shown on air.

There is also a huge major plot spoiler near the middle of the post. I'll put extra spoiler tags there for those who might want to know some, but not all the info in this podcast. Personally, I'd skip the huge major plot spoiler. If I could, I'd forget I know it.


*** Spoiler ***

There were no actor interviews this week, just Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and their wacky words of wisdom.

They started out talking a little about the last episode, "Every Man for Himself". They surprised me when they said there was a Stephen King shoutout buried in that episode. They will not reveal what it was, so someone please comment below and enlighten me. They also discussed the implications of the discovery of a separate island on the prisoners. The cages seem relatively easy to get out of, but the real prison is the small island. Escape will not be as simple as it might have been.

They stepped back for a moment to clarify a bit of "The Glass Ballerina". They clarified that Jae *did* commit suicide. So much for my grand conspiracy theories. He actually jumped. Jin told him he was dead and to leave the country and Jae took the first bit literally. They said this was an unintentional mystery.

In "Every Man for Himself", we found out that Sawyer might have a daughter, Clementine. When asked if we will hear more of her, they joked that by season sixteen of Lost, she will be a prominent character.


Implications of Colleen's death. Jack was quick to help the Others after all they'd done to him and his friends, but that's Jack. They made a joke about Jack's onscreen surgical history. He seems to have lost an awful lot of patients—nearly every one that we know of. Damon and Carlton emphasized that it was not Jack's fault that Colleen died.

X-rays: we'll find out whose they are very soon, before the hiatus. That's either "Cost of Living" or "I Do", this week or next.

There is a good likelihood that Danny Pickett will seek vengeance as a grieving husband. That tidbit bears on my own theories that the Others have a very Us vs. Them attitude and that, to the Others, everyone else is interchangeable.

*** Really Big Major Plot Spoiler ***


This week's episode, "The Cost of Living", will be a Mr. Eko story. Someone significant will die this week. Joked about Scott or Steve dying in season one.

*** Really Big Major Plot Spoiler is past ***


Fan questions

I grouped these by the person asking them.

Do you back up the position of the long break? Yes
Will you run episodes consistently next season? No, 22 or 23 episodes for 35 weeks

Did the polar bears escape before or after the collapse of Dharma?
During the collapse of Dharma
Did the bears' escape cause the collapse of Dharma? No
How many Dharma people did the bears eat? All of the bears in total? Do children count? If it eats just your leg and you survive, does that count as being eaten? 19, wait 20. (Are Damon and Carlton serious with this answer? Or just kidding?)
Is Ben mean and evil because the bears stole his toy truck when he was a kid? No

Did Jae jump or was he thrown? (They answered that one earlier.)
If the hatch imploded, how were all the people blown out? "In the laws of physics such as they exist in the world of lost, the implosion created a vacuum, and as the air came in to fill that vacuum, it rapidly heated and expanded causing an explosion. So it was sort of a thermodynamic incident where an implosion was followed by a subsequent explosion."
Yes or no, does Kate love Sawyer? Yes

The four wise monkeys which can be viewed here (web address not given by Damon and Carlton) ... is there a philosophical reference to "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil"? They didn't know what the fourth one would be. The naked monkey? Charlie was not involved in the explosion. His ears were ringing. Eko will not be blind. Locke was temporarily mute. Desmond's nakedness has nothing to do with anything.

Will there be a gay character? Yes, there is a good possibility one of the characters will be found to be gay.

They are currently writing episode 10, which will be a Hurley flashback. (We won't see that one until late February or early March of 2007.)

Why do the Losties confuse Scott and Steve? It's just a running gag.

Was the turbine man from the pilot, Gary Troup, the author of Bad Twin? Yes

When will more of the background cast get their moments in the spotlight? Will be seeing more of Paulo and Nikki this week. We will find out what the redshirts are doing while Jack and the others are off on adventures.

That's it for this week. That was quite a spoiler they gave for "Cost of Living". I kind of wish I didn't know it.
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X-rays at the Hydra Station

October 30th 2006 14:01
In "Every Man for Himself", Jack was called in to try to save Colleen, who had been shot in the stomach by Sun in "The Glass Ballerina". When Jack washed up for surgery, he noticed some x-rays. Later in the episode, Jack asks Juliet whose x-rays they are. He says that the x-rays show a massive tumor on the L4 vertebra.

The previews seem to indicate the x-rays belong to Ben. We'll see on Wednesday, I'm sure.

Jack and Ben's X-rays
Jack sees some x-rays at the Hydra station while scrubbing in


Jack and Ben's X-rays at the Hydra Station
Another shot of the X-rays


Spinal X-ray of Ben
Close up of the spinal X-ray
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Of Mice and Men

October 29th 2006 20:01
In "Every Man for Himself", Sawyer's backstory included a shot of him reading "Of Mice and Men", the book by John Steinbeck that oh-so-many-of-us had to read in high school. Later, in the same prison backstory, Sawyer says to Munson, "Now you've had a good cry, mind if I go back and see if George gets his farm?" And, in the last scene on the island between Ben and Sawyer, Sawyer asks Ben if he's taking him to "that place you always wanted, George?" then acts smug that Ben doesn't recognize the reference. Ben turns the tables moments later when he quotes a lengthy passage about loneliness and Sawyer doesn't recognize it as being from "Of Mice and Men". I suspect, though, that Sawyer never finished "Of Mice and Men". He seems to have no idea of how depressing the book is.

The producers have said that the books they show are carefully selected and have meanings related to the show. John Steinbeck's stories always end with the main character losing his dreams and suffering for them, sometimes even dying because of them. With Josh Holloway's Sawyer such a popular character, I'm going to stubbornly go with the idea that Sawyer won't die.

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim'rous beastie,
O, what panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
Wi' murd'ring pattle!

I'm truly sorry Man's dominion
Has broken Nature's social union,
An' justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle,
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An' fellow-mortal!

I doubt na, whyles, but thou may thieve;
What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
A daimen-icker in a thrave 'S a sma' request:
I'll get a blessin wi' the lave,
An' never miss't!

Thy wee-bit housie, too, in ruin!
It's silly wa's the win's are strewin!
An' naething, now, to big a new ane,
O' foggage green!
An' bleak December's winds ensuin,
Baith snell an' keen!

Thou saw the fields laid bare an' wast,
An' weary Winter comin fast,
An' cozie here, beneath the blast,
Thou thought to dwell,
Till crash! the cruel coulter past
Out thro' thy cell.

That wee-bit heap o' leaves an' stibble,
Has cost thee monie a weary nibble!
Now thou's turn'd out, for a' thy trouble,
But house or hald.
To thole the Winter's sleety dribble,
An' cranreuch cauld!

But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!

Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But Och! I backward cast my e'e,
On prospects drear!
An' forward, tho' I canna see,
I guess an' fear!


--"To a Mouse" by Robert Burns

From the second to last stanza comes the title and the theme of the book "Of Mice and Men".

The best laid plans of mice and men
Often go astray
And leave us naught but grief and pain
For promised joy.


"Of Mice and Men" has two main characters: George, a small working-class man, and his friend Lennie, a very large, very strong, mildly retarded man. Lennie is kind, but doesn't know his own strength. He loves to pet soft things, like mice and rabbits, but often kills them accidentally. Early on in the book, we learn that George wants a farm, and on this farm, George tells Lennie they will raise rabbits for Lennie to tend.

George has dreams of rising above what he was born into. He doesn't want to be a laborer working for someone else all his life; he wants to be the farmer and hire the laborers. At a ranch where they are working, George and Lennie talk about their dream and other laborers want to come work for them. The dream begins to seem real

There is a character who hates Lennie, and by extension George, unreasonably (like Danny Pickett hates Sawyer), the laborers are often reminded that they are only laborers and not to look too high (as Sawyer is often reminded he is a conman and a blight on society), and, of course, the theme of loneliness and needing other people underlies much of the plot (Ben makes the point that Sawyer pushes Kate away even while it's obvious that he cares about her.)

Skip this next paragraph if you don't want to know the end of the book.

"Of Mice and Men" ends tragically. Lennie accidentally kills a woman and lynch mob goes looking for him. George finds Lennie where he's hiding, assures him that he's not mad at him, then kills Lennie himself, saving him from the mob. The mob arrives and only one person seems to realize what a difficult thing George has just done. George is as alone as Sawyer believes himself to be.

The inability of the characters to rise above their own lives echoes Sawyer's belief that he is what he is and it's too late to change.

Need more information on "Of Mice and Men" by John Steinbeck? Try Bookrags' "Of Mice and Men" page.

Want to read "Of Mice and Men"? Try Amazon or Barnes and Noble.
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Cost of Living -- US Preview

October 28th 2006 02:46
This is the Lost preview for "Cost of Living", shown at the end of "Every Man for Himself" in the United States. If you're unable to turn on your speakers (and I'm sure that's not because you're looking for Lost info while you're at work, right?), I transcribed the words below the video.

The video is twenty-six seconds long


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Every Man For Himself: Easter Eggs

October 26th 2006 19:19
Lost episode, "Every Man For Himself", was rife with Easter Eggs this week. Most of them concerned the numbers ( 4 8 15 16 23 42 ), which seem to be something all the survivors of flight 815 have in common.


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Every Man For Himself

October 26th 2006 07:08
Sawyer Josh Holloway
The backstory revolves around Sawyer
The sea, then the back of Desmond's head. He seems to have cleaned up. He is sitting on the beach, stroking his beard and watching Claire with Aaron. She is under her shelter. Claire lays Aaron down for a nap. Desmond walks over and interrupts Claire writing in her diary. He tells her she has a problem with her roof, maybe she should move down the beach for the night while he fixes it. Claire declines the offer nicely. Desmond tells her it would be worth it. Charlie calls out, "Whatcha doin', brotha?" in a clear imitation of Desmond. Desmond tells him he wants to fix the roof. Charlie says it's fine and puffs up a bit, says he's handy, he was building a church before Eko blew up. Claire rolls her eyes a bit. Desmond gives in and leaves. Charlie says, "We're going to have to get that guy another button to push."

Desmond Thinking
Desmond is thinking
Jack's cell. Jack is pacing and watching a cartoon on the television Ben brought in last episode. "The Blue Danube" is playing on the cartoon. Someone bangs on the door to his cell and Jack sits in the corner. Juliet comes in with Dharma water and makes small talk. She tells him he seems frustrated. He asks if he's going to watch cartoon all day or is she going to tell him why he's there. Juliet doesn't answer his question, and says instead that she hopes he likes blueberry. She starts to walk away, but Jack says, "Should I talk to Benjamin?" "Sorry?" "should I talk to Benjamin? Because I'm starting to think you're just the person who brings me my food." "You can talk to him all you want. He won't tell you anything." "You work for him." "No, I don't work for him." "He's in charge." "It doesn't work that way around here, Jack. We make decisions together." Right when she says she doesn't answer to Ben, he bursts in and demands her attention. She tries to put him off, but insists. Ben says the sub is back and they have a situation. Juliet follows him out of the cell quickly, but with a glance back at Jack
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Lost Official Podcast 25 Oct 2006

October 25th 2006 19:49
The Lost podcast for 25 October 2006 was short--less than seven minutes long. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse didn't show up for it, the host said, because they were filming a television show. Go figure.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje Photo as Eko
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje plays Mr. Eko
The actor this week was Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, who plays Mr. Eko. He spoke about the challenges of playing such a complicated character. He likes playing a character that stays away from stereotypes and whose emotions run the gamut. He feels Eko has a redemptive quality about him that makes people like him despite his past


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Locke: Is He a Hunter or Farmer?

October 24th 2006 19:34
In "Further Instructions", Locke told Eddie he could enter a sweat lodge, meditate a bit, and find out whether he is a hunter or a farmer. Eddie asked him which he was, but Locke only smiled at that time. The commune leaders discover that Eddie is Edward Colburn, a police officer sent to gather evidence of their pot-farming operations, and Locke promises to "fix" the problem. At the end of the episode, when Locke holds a gun on Eddie with the intent to murder him, Eddie tells Locke that he is a good man, a farmer. Locke becomes upset and insists that he is not a farmer, but a hunter. Yet, Locke is unable to pull the trigger. As the scene ends, we see him lower the gun as Eddie walks away.

Locke: Hunter or Farmer?
Locke: Is he a hunter or a farmer?
It would be easy to argue that this proves Eddie's assertion--Locke is a farmer. However, Locke started out the series as an apparent hunter. In episode four of the first season, "Walkabout", we are first introduced to Locke and his four hundred knives. The survivors of flight 815 have just come to the realization that rescue is not coming soon and they have run out of food. Locke saves the day by claiming he knows what he is doing. He eventually gets a handle on it, after some tense moments--Michael getting gored by a boar, Charlie being used as live bait to lure a boar into a trap--and becomes "The Hunter" for the group


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Desmond's Beard Before the Implosion
Desmond's Beard Before the Implosion
A lot of people, including me, have asked if Desmond's beard grew between the final episode of season two, "Live Together, Die Alone", and the third episode of season three, "Further Instructions". The two episodes are supposed to have happened within a day of each other.

Desmond spent most of last season--well, what we saw of him in the beginning before he ran and in the end when he returned to shore after two weeks at sea--rather scruffy, a la Sawyer and Jack. In "Further Instructions", Desmond is noticeably furry


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Behind the Secrets of Lost

October 22nd 2006 17:49
Nightline interview with JJ Abrams, Carlton Cuse, and Damon Lindelof

A fifteen page interview is posted on the web at ABC news. It talks about the series from season one into season three. They point out that they do answer mysteries on the show and that most of the questions set up in the pilot episode have been answered


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Lost Podcast: The Glass Ballerina

October 22nd 2006 00:16
I found a podcast on the ABC site dated 09 Oct 2006 and I just had to know what they said, even though I've seen "The Glass Ballerina". I have yet to watch their video podcast, but I might go back and do that during the hiatus.

Juliet
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Further Instructions: Easter Eggs

October 21st 2006 02:31
Every episode of Lost contains Easter eggs, those hidden references, sayings, and pictures that add another dimension to this Lost fanatic's life. "Further Instructions" was no exception. Here are the Easter eggs I found.

Eko's Jesus stick. I wrote a detailed post about Mr. Eko's Jesus stick. The large staff hit Locke on the shoulder as it fell from a tree. When Locke picked it up, he spent several seconds staring at it. "Lift up your eyes and look north" faces the camera square on. Several citations surround the quote. Right above the rope wrapping the handle of the stick, Eko had carved the Numbers: 4 8 15 16 23 42
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Lost Episodes Free on ABC.com

October 21st 2006 01:43
If you missed Lost because you had something else to do (I'm thinking major medical emergency, a meteorite hit your car while you were at work and you couldn't get a ride home because you work in a remote part of Tatooine, or a colony of squirrels chewed through your electrical wires and the horse kicked the generator last week destroying all power to your home are the only real reasons for missing Lost), and you're only interested in legal means to watch it, ABC has put the latest episode up on their web site.

Click here and go to their download page
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The title pretty much describes what this post is. Spoiler tag coming up:

*** Spoiler ***
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Further Instructions: Eko's Jesus Stick

October 20th 2006 03:28
At the beginning of "Further Instructions", Eko's Jesus stick falls out of a tree and knocks Locke on the shoulder. Locke picks it up and studies it for a few seconds. One quote from Jeremiah 13:20 takes center stage and several citations surround the quote.

Mr. Eko's Jesus Stick
Bible citations on Mr. Eko's Jesus Stick
The quote says, "Lift up your eyes and look north". The exact quote, from Jer 13:20, is quite interesting. "Lift up your eyes and see those who are coming from the north. Where is the flock that was entrusted to you, the sheep of which you boasted?" (All translations are NIV) The Others seem to live in the north of the island. Boone told Locke in his dreamquest that he had to bring the family back together, which would seem to be the sheep. Later in the episode, Eko (or the island speaking through an unconscious Eko) says that Locke will find them


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Every Man For Himself Preview

October 19th 2006 16:40
At the end of "Further Instructions", a preview for "Every Man For Himself" aired. Since I know many of you feel anything outside the actual show is a spoiler, here is the spoiler tag:

*** Spoiler ***
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Further Instructions

October 19th 2006 04:26
Locke Episode
The backstory centers on Locke
Locke's eye. He is lying in flattened reeds, his legs at an odd angle. Is he unable to walk again? The camera pans out and it's a bit reminiscent of the pilot episode when Jack wakes up. Locke hears rustling in the reeds and turns his head to look. I half-expected Vincent to come running through the brush, but instead, it was a naked, semi-obscured Desmond. Locke tries to call out to him, but his voice won't come out. He lays back for a moment, then gets up, only a little blood showing on the side and back of his head.

Locke hears a snap overhead. He looks up and Eko's Jesus stick falls out of the tree and hits Locke on the way down. Locke picks it up and the quote "Lift up your eyes and look north" (Jer 13:20) faces us. Several citations face us as well


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Further Instructions Tonight on Lost

October 18th 2006 17:39
*** Spoiler ***

Today I'll just start with the spoiler tag. All the information I have in this post has been gleaned from previews and ads on television, as well as the TiVo summary


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Lost Podcast 17 Oct 2006

October 18th 2006 04:45
On the ABC web site, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have a podcast about their show Lost. In the current podcast for 17 Oct 2006, they rehash last week's episode, "The Glass Ballerina", and offer comments on this week's episode, "Further Instructions". They have a very chatty style and joke about each other and the show throughout. Sometimes it's hard to know what's a joke and what is a real comment. Since some of their comments might be spoilers and I have included them in the text below, here is your spoiler warning:

*** Spoiler ***
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Glass Ballerina: Red Sox

October 17th 2006 04:01
Christian Shepard used to say, "And that's why the Red Sox'll never win the Series" when speaking of Fate.

In season one, episode sixteen, "Outlaws", Christian says this to Sawyer when they are drinking together in the bar. Later in that same episode, Jack says the same thing to Sawyer and explains it as something his father would say to avoid responsibility for his own actions. Sawyer realizes at that moment that Christian is Jack's father, but says nothing


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It was called to my attention that I did not discuss enough the jungle images on monitors one and three, which I said was the jungle outside the Hydra station. It looks exactly like the jungle that Sayid and Jin look at while they are hiding, waiting for the Others in Sayid's ill-conceived trap. My assumption is that the producers or directors of Lost reused footage of the jungle for both scenes. Not everyone agrees with me, so I will elaborate.

The monitors show hallways alternating with jungle. I believe that is showing two different hallways (one on each monitor) leading to two different doors, alternating with the outside of the doors. The Arrow had jungle vines hanging down in front of the door and obscuring it. The tail end survivors used that to their advantage to stay hidden from the Others. The Swan also had vines obscuring the door until the fuselage survivors cleared them away


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Further Instructions Ad During Football

October 14th 2006 21:57
This ad aired in the third quarter of the Mizz/A&M game on ABC (US). Knowing that any source of information about Lost outside the television show is considered a spoiler by some, here is the spoiler tag:

*** Spoiler ***
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Further Instructions Preview

October 14th 2006 02:34
At the end of "The Glass Ballerina", a preview for "Further Instructions" appeared. I know some people consider previews spoilerish, so here's the spoiler tag:

*** SPOILER ***
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The Glass Ballerina: The Monitors

October 13th 2006 13:40
The second episode of the third season of the tv show Lost adds a few more mysteries as it reveals some clues. At the beginning of "The Glass Ballerina", right after Juliet drops off the soup for Jack, Ben exits a room with six monitors in it. We see this room again at the end as Ben listens to Sawyer and Kate talk about their day.

The first time we see the room, only monitors one, two, and five are visible. Monitor one shows the hallway outside the viewing room to Jack's cell. Monitor two shows Jack sulking in his corner. Monitor five shows a cage, like the ones Sawyer and Kate are in


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The Glass Ballerina: Sun

October 12th 2006 23:58
Yun-Jin Kim
Yun-Jin Kim plays Sun
The main theme that tied together the backstory and the plot line was Sun's dishonesty. She lied to Jin when she had an affair with Jae. She lied to Jin when Sayid asked her to. The second seemed to be rebellion against a controlling husband. Was the first also an act of rebellion?

She lied to her father about the broken glass ballerina at the beginning of the episode. She kept the fact of Jin's infertility from him--a lie by omission


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The Glass Ballerina: Ben

October 12th 2006 13:16
Michael Emerson
Michael Emerson plays Ben
Ben told Jack he'd lived on the island all his life. Just a guess, but is Ben 42? You remember, 42 is one of the Numbers: 4 8 15 16 23 42. Michael Emerson, the actor who plays Ben, is 50 in real life. If Ben was born on the island, and he's about forty-two years old, he would have been there since about 1962.

The film at the Swan station was copyright 1980. But we know that the island has been populated for much longer than that. Magnus Hanso, grandfather of Alvar Hanso (who funded the Dharma Initiative), was buried on the island. The Black Rock sailed in the very late 1800s. That four-toed colossus foot looked very old, although that could also be a newer construction


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The Glass Ballerina

October 12th 2006 00:59
Glass Ballerina
Backstory centers on Sun

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Tonight, the second episode of the third season airs. My TiVo description says: "Sun's and Jin's lives are in danger; Kate and Sawyer work in harsh conditions." It looks like "The Glass Ballerina" will move back and forth between Desmond's boat, containing Sun and Jin (possibly Sayid is still on land at the abandoned fake hatch), and the Hydra station with Kate and Sawyer.

I hope tonight to get some clues as to why the Others are torturing the flight 815 survivors. It looked like they'd broken Jack at the end of "AToTC", but he'll come back when it matters, I think. Sawyer is a con man, so maybe he'll pull the wool over their eyes with mind games of his own


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A Tale of Two Cities

October 11th 2006 03:49
Jack Episode
Backstory centers on Jack.


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A Tale of Survival

October 11th 2006 03:10
"A Tale of Survival" recaps the story of the island in chronological order through the first two seasons. It touches on the major mysteries, but does not mention the themes or Easter eggs prevalent in Lost.

This episode starts with a recap of Desmond's arrival on the island and his meeting and subsequent murder of Kelvin. Desmond finds out that the fate of the world--or at least the tidiness of his bunker--truly does rest on his shoulders. He despairs, then hears Locke banging on the hatch


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Middle Menu Section

October 4th 2006 03:47
All these sites are family-friendly, though some may not interest the kids.

* Flower Gardening, how-to and design ideas

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